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Place Of Birth

Someone rightfully removed the place of birth on the article, as of late no reliable source as to where he was born. IMDB states his P.O.B. to be New York City, however the Deutsche IMDB has his birthplace listed in Munich. Most articles about Pilatus state him as being a German-American which would imply he was born in Germany. If anyone knows for sure and can cite the source please advise. --SaturdayNightSpecial (talk) 01:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For the same reason, I removed the categories "African-American signers" and "People from New York City." If there is information to substantiate the categories, please undo what I've done. (And, ideally I suppose, add something related such as "born in New York" to the article as it seems pointless to have an article associated with categories that are not easily understood or figured out from the article's content.) We know his father was African American, but was he/would he have considered himself to have been? (He doesn't seem to have spent time until later in life living in the US; the jury is out on whether he was born in the US. I don't know how adoption works or ever did in Germany but, if it works as it often did in the US in those days, the record of his birth parents might also have been totally sealed, which would also render him to not even have had a claim on US citizenship via his father, assuming his father was named on his original birth certificate or he was born in the US in the first place.

Seems likely IMDB is off re: birthplace unless, after his parents met, his (German) mother returned to the US with his (American) father and then somehow he was taken back to Germany. He was adopted by a German family, which certainly seems to be a process that would have occurred in Germany. Unless his adoptive family had some other connection to him, why would they adopt a child who lived in the US? Also, then, why would he have been adopted? Wouldn't it seem likely that, if something happened to his mom and/or her ability to parent, instead of being adopted by a German family, would he have not been more likely to have been with/sent to his father or adopted by an American family? We don't know from the current information, but it seems plausible that his mother and father did not have a long term relationship and also plausible that his father was not in his life. Then something happened that prevented his mother from parenting and he was adopted. Or his mother and father both met early fates?

I don't know that German-American necessarily implies "born in Germany" as it could also mean "an American of German descent." Sheesh. Complicated. Hananekosan (talk) 01:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He was born in Munich. He was not born in New York, and I don't know where that information comes from, as it is incorrect. His father was in the U.S. military and stationed in Germany when he met his mother, and Rob was immediately put up for adoption as soon as he was born Rob never met his biological parents (his father returned home to the U.S before he was born, and his German mother remained in Germany, and didn't want to keep him). He spent the first four years of his life in an orphanage before he was adopted by a German family in Munich, therefore he was most likely born in Germany.

There's a source provided in the article itself that states he was born in New York and raised in Munich. If you disagree you will need to provide a reliable source that supports your assertions. DonIago (talk) 13:37, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the sorce and where is the article published? 98.128.166.43 (talk) 15:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Fab Morvan's (fabmorvan.com) official website, there are scans of magazine interviews done with the in the 80s. One of them has Rob himself mentioning that he was born in Munich and not New York. It is simply an untrue rumor that got started somehow and spread, to the point where numerous sources, including even newspapers incorrectly list his birthplace as New York.

So why doesn't anybody change it to Munich? 149.172.151.67 (talk) 17:48, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to German Wikipedia and this documentary by TV station arte Rob was born in New York. In one of he interviews he says he's from New York. Should we change that again? --Glamourqueen (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In an interview in Ebony magazine, July 1990, it says "Pilatus was born in New York City, the son of a Black American serviceman and a German dancer." https://www.pinterest.com/pin/689965605386155620/CarlSerafino (talk) 08:47, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don´t think articles in media is reliable soruces. It would be some physical documents or people being in present in the adoption process or close relatives maybe, that kan verify place of birth. I´ve read a lot of articles past weeks, and old, large media and alternative media is not consistent in what they say. The question is, is place of birth verifiable or not? So I think and suggest, that the most correct way to do it until theres more reliable verifiation, is to go with what Rob Pilatus says himself in interviews, maybe the best source is from first hand information in not edited videos and not edited news articles. 98.128.166.43 (talk) 15:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth

I'm pretty sure he was born in 1965, not 1964. Various sources list his birthdate as June 8, 1965, and this page is the only one that lists it as 1964.

I've tagged the year of birth for needing sourcing and removed him from a "born in YYYY" category pending sourcing. Honestly, I would have recommended doing that yourself (or providing a source) rather than starting a Talk page thread, but here we are. DonIago (talk) 13:41, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

His partner Fab Morvan says there was a two year difference between them. And Morvan is born in 1963. One must have reliable sources, and news media is not reilable sources. I suggest to go with what Rob Pilatus says himself in unedited videos. Or what it said in drivers licence or other government records. 98.128.166.43 (talk) 15:53, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morvan year of birth: 1966.

98.128.166.43 (talk) 16:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"Kent's Cube"

The article says that Pilatus died "in "Kent's Cube" in Friedrichsdorf". What's "Kent's Cube"? Google searches for it turn up this article, or others that may be referring to it, and nothing that isn't related to Rob Pilatus. It this some kind of typo or misunderstanding that has been elevated from nonsense to Gospel by being stated in Wikipedia? TypoBoy (talk) 16:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did some Googling around, and most of what I found merely says Pilatus was found dead in a hotel room. It's possible the hotel was named "Kent's Cube", but also possible that's a bit of misinformation that crept into the article and elsewhere. I'd recommend just changing it to say a hotel room unless more information presents itself. DonIago (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He was not a singer

This info should be corrected as he could never sing, Milli Vanilli did lip sync and somebody else was singing their songs 82.10.114.102 (talk) 21:11, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Read the article. He was a singer, despite the fact that he and Morvan weren't the ones singing when they appeared as Milli Vanilli. Largoplazo (talk) 22:47, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thats true. 98.128.166.43 (talk) 15:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]